i don't want to see the obama care plan thrown off the table. >> obama care. that's all the conservatives talk about. how much of an impact does powell's endorsement going to have to help the president, you think? >> i think powell has some impact. you know, he's being dismissed inside the beltway today. this endorsement is being dismissed inside the beltway because it's not really news. it would only have been news if powell had endorsed romney. now, i grant that. if powell had switched sides, and endorsed mitt romney, that would have been a much bigger story. but that doesn't mean it doesn't count for anything outside the beltway. >> sure. >> most americans, still, regard colin powell pretty well, pretty highly. if you're an undecided voter at this point and you're not a, you know, highly political person, and you're paying attention to late signals, colin powell's endorsement matters. it sits on this side of the scale as some kind of factor. there's no question about it. >> it must be deemed as a big deal by the president and the staff because the president